Richard Spencer engages in a detailed discussion with guest Drew Pavlov about his journey in activism, which began with protests against the Chinese government while at university in Australia. Pavlo shares his experiences with physical assaults and cyber harassment that led to a broader public profile. The conversation expands to wider political topics, including contrasting views on Israel, Palestine, and Ukraine, highlighting diverging political ideologies and affiliations. Drew also discusses his stance on Australia's relationship with China, the role of global allies, the influence of third-world movements, and his nuanced position on nationalism and decolonial rhetoric. As they project future geopolitical dynamics, they touch on Trump's policies, isolationism, and the glaring contradictions in modern American politics. The episode wraps with reflections on the complexities of defining 'the West' in an increasingly polarized world.
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Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Guest Introduction: Drew Pavlo
02:41 Drew's Activism Journey
06:17 Political and Social Views
08:24 Challenges and Threats Faced
15:34 Australia's Political Landscape
27:29 Global Perspectives and Propaganda
39:45 The Influence of Media and Propaganda
41:33 Russian Propaganda and Its Effectiveness
42:47 Nihilism in Russian Propaganda
44:52 MAGA and American Nationalism
54:57 Cultural Assimilation and Identity
01:09:09 The Israel-Palestine Conflict
01:16:38 The Influence of Tankies in Politics
01:17:20 Changing Liberal Perceptions on Israel
01:18:57 Iran's Role in Global Politics
01:22:52 The Complexities of Zionism and Jewish Statehood
01:32:59 The Future of American Foreign Policy
01:49:24 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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